Sept. 22, 2025

Episode 19: The Gambit

With British authority collapsing in North America, Britons on both sides of the Atlantic including Benjamin Franklin, Caroline Howe, and Lord Dartmouth engage in desperate and secret negotiations to avoid all the horrors of civil war. 

Featuring: Julie Flavell, Mary Beth Norton, Michael Hattem, and Frank Cogliano.

Voice Actors: Grace Mallon, Amber Pelham, Evan McCormick, Adam Smith, Craig Gallagher, and John Terry.

Narrated by Dr. Jim Ambuske.

Music by Artlist.io

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Worlds Turned Upside Down is a production of the Roy Rosenzweig Center for History and New Media at George Mason University.

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Jim Ambuske: This episode of
Worlds Turned Upside Down is

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made possible with support from
a 2024 grant from the National

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Endowment for the Humanities.

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Caroline Howe busied herself
preparing her drawing room in

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her home at 12 Grafton Street in
London. She was expecting the

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arrival of a new acquaintance, a
scientist, printer, and

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politician, and they were to
play a game of chess. It was

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December 2, 1774.

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Howe was fifty-three years old
as she set out the board and

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readied the pieces. Her
husband, John, had been dead now

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for five years, making her a
widow by the time she moved into

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her fashionable and recently
built townhome on Grafton

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Street. Her younger brother and
her mother lived just nearby.

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As the eldest daughter of
Emanual Scrope Howe, 2nd

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Viscount Howe, and his wife,
Charlotte, Caroline Howe had

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lived a comfortable life as a
member of the British elite. As

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a young girl she displayed a
competitive streak, one that

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would only become stronger with
time.

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Yet, the Howe family’s life was
not without tragedy. On any

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given day, Howe could visit the
memorial erected by the colony

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of Massachusetts Bay in
Westminster Abbey to honor her

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eldest brother, Lord George
Augustus Howe, who had fallen in

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battle against French and
Indigenous forces in northern

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New York in the summer of 1758.

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To commemorate Lord Howe, the
sculptor carved a crest-fallen

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woman in mourning out of white
marble. She rests atop a tablet,

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inscribed with the colony’s
tribute to the popular general,

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supported at the base by two
menacing lions. Behind it, an

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obelisk bore the family’s coat
of arms. British flags and

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regimental colors reminded
visitors that Lord Howe had died

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for the empire. So did the
inscription. As his sister would

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have read, Massachusetts Bay
commissioned the memorial:

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Caroline Howe: “In testimony of
the sense they had of his

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services and military virtues,
and of the affection their

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officers and soldiers bore to
his command. He lived respected

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and beloved: The publick
regretted his loss; to his

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family it is irreparable.”

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Jim Ambuske: The memorial was a
reminder of the most painful of

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the many ties that bound the
Howe family to British America.

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From the bay windows of her
Grafton Street home, Howe could

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see the comings and goings of
London society, and from within

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her drawing room, good friends
and family could often be found,

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whispering the latest political
gossip, planning the next

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charitable venture, or
discussing the latest troubling

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news from the colonies.

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Despite the fervent hopes of her
friend, Lord Dartmouth, His

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Majesty’s Secretary of State for
the Colonies for their

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acquiescence, many British
Americans had risen up in

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protest against the Boston Port
Act, condemned the rest of the

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Coercive Acts, and feared the
restoration of New France in

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Quebec.

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By the summer of 1774, colonists
were organizing new protests and

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calling for a congress to meet
in Philadelphia to debate a

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united response among some of
the king’s aggrieved dominions.

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Extra legal conventions elected
extra legal delegates to a

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congress with no constitutional
authority, no legal existence in

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British law, a congress some
colonists worried had a

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pretension to power it did not
have.

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At this congress’ urging,
committees in local communities

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began enforcing the Continental
Association, a boycott of

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British goods and a ban on
provincial exports. These extra

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legal committees demanded access
to merchants’ ledgers, coerced

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the speech of reluctant
colonists, and chided them for

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enjoying life’s pleasures,
leaving many to question the

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loyalties of the king’s
subjects.

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And with Parliament seemingly
unwilling to compromise unless

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colonists fully acknowledged its
authority, of its right to

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legislate for the colonies “in
all cases whatsoever”, and an

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unconstitutional Congress in
Philadelphia issuing new demands

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for the Mother Country to
retreat, the prospects for peace

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in the empire appeared grim.

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But there were Britons on both
sides of the Atlantic who

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believed in charting a different
course, in finding a middle

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ground that redressed all their
grievances and restored the

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promise of Great Britain’s
Empire of Liberty.

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As a woman in the eighteenth
century, Caroline Howe could

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play no part in the
deliberations of the king’s

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privy council, nor debate
politics in Parliament or

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command soldiers in the field,
like her brothers did.

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But Howe could play games of
chess. And she was an avid

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player, a determined, even
ferocious, competitor, who

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delighted in winning, especially
when the stakes were high and

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her opponents were formidable.

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And she could play games that
everyone could see, and other

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games, most could not.

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For when her guest, Benjamin
Franklin, rapped on her door at

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12 Grafton Street that December
day, the aging Boston-born

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Philadelphian did not yet
realize that Howe’s invitation

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was a clever ruse to bring the
most well-known British American

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through her door. This was more
than just an invitation for a

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simple game of chess and the
promise of passing the day in

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polite company, it was an
opening gambit, the first move,

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in the beginnings of secret
talks to stave off the horrors

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of imperial civil war.

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I’m Jim Ambuske, and this is
World Turned Upside Down, a

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podcast about the history of the
American Revolution.

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Episode 19: The Gambit

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In late January 1774, nearly
twelve months before calling on

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Caroline Howe for a game of
chess, Benjamin Franklin walked

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into a trap.

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On January 29th, Franklin
arrived at the palace of

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Whitehall for a meeting with the
king’s privy council. Acting as

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an agent on behalf of the colony
of Massachusetts Bay, Franklin

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expected to discuss a petition
from the colony’s assembly

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requesting the removal of
Governor Thomas Hutchinson, a

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man widely loathed by
Bostonians.

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By now long accustomed to public
notoriety, and with a reputation

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in Britain as a leading
authority on colonial affairs,

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Franklin may not have thought
much of the crowd gathering in

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the gallery, nor realized they
had come to watch a spectacle.

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Dressed in a velvet suit,
Franklin entered a chamber known

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as the cockpit, a room
constructed by King Henry VIII

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to host fowl bloodsports.

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Nine days earlier, Londoners had
learned that a mob of Boston men

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had dumped nearly 50 tons of
East India Company tea into

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Boston Harbor, drowning goods
worth nearly £1.2 million in our

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own time. The destruction
appalled the king’s ministers,

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members of Parliament, and
residents in the imperial

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capital, leaving them in no mood
to hear Franklin defend the

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colony’s request to see its
governor removed.

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Thirty-five privy councilors,
including the prime minister,

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Lord North, awaited him. The
Earl of Hillsborough was there

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as well. Once Secretary of State
for the Colonies, Hillsborough

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believed firmly in Parliament’s
supremacy and the uncompromising

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enforcement of its laws. His
more pragmatic and conciliatory

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successor, the Earl of
Dartmouth, appeared, as did

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Edmund Burke, a member of
Parliament and agent for the

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colony of New York. Major
General Thomas Gage, soon to

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become governor of Massachusetts
Bay took a seat as well. Even

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the Archbishop of Canterbury
came to watch from the gallery,

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as an unsuspecting Franklin took
his place in the corner of the

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cockpit, and the government’s
solicitor general, Alexander

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Wedderburn, rose to begin.

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Julie Flavell: Franklin was
agent from Massachusetts at this

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time, and his remit was to
appear before the Privy Council

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to defend a petition from
Massachusetts calling for

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removal of Governor Thomas
Hutchinson. It was, of course,

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very unpopular. Julie Flavell,
independent scholar. Some of

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Hutchinson's letters to a
British official in London had

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been sent to Boston, and they
appeared to show the governor

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endorsing stricter control of
Massachusetts by the British

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government, which made him more
unpopular than ever. So the

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colony was now petitioning for
his removal.

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Jim Ambuske: Franklin had been
the one who had leaked those

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letters. That was public
knowledge, though he never

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revealed how he got hold of
them. News of the tea’s

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destruction in Boston
transformed Franklin’s meeting

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with the privy council from a
simple hearing into a tribunal.

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Julie Flavell: The mood in
London was that it was time to

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stop compromising with
troublemakers in the colonies,

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especially trouble making
Boston. Within the next few

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months, Boston Port was going to
be closed as a punishment, and

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the Coercive Acts would be
enacted. So Franklin's meeting

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with the Privy Council, which
was meant to be a rather minor

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affair, was transformed into a
showcase for Metropolitan anger

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at the Bostonians who'd gotten a
reputation for themselves ever

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since the Stamp Act riot as
particularly violent protesters

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and Frank. Franklin himself
already had a bad reputation as

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someone who stirred up
discontent in the colonies, in

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the minds of a lot of people in
London.

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Jim Ambuske: As Franklin stood
in silence, his prosecutor

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directed more than 8,000 words
at him.

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Julie Flavell: In a tirade
lasting an hour, the government

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Solicitor General Alexander
Wedderburn publicly demolished

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Franklin's character. He called
the American malignant, a man

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without honor, an incendiary who
inflamed the innocent people of

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Massachusetts against British
rule. Because the British

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retained this idea that there
was a nest of conspiratorial

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troublemakers and that normal
farmers and so forth weren't

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interested in these kinds of
things. Onlookers actually

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audibly laughed as Franklin was
humiliated, and he kept his face

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carefully neutral throughout the
harangue. Somebody described him

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as his face was as if made of
wood. And for about a week

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afterwards, the west end card
parties buzzed with the American

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business, but it would be many
months before the full

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implications of Franklin's
ordeal before the Privy Council

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would become clear. Because, of
course, a very serious crisis in

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America had emerged, and the
most influential colonial

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spokesman ever to serve in
London had been discredited

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right at the outset.

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Jim Ambuske: The Privy Council
dismissed the petition from

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Massachusetts Bay. Two days
later, the government removed

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Franklin as deputy postmaster
general of North America. He

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resigned as agent for his native
New England colony, and

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contemplated sailing home to
Pennsylvania.

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With Franklin’s encounter with
Wedderburn in the cockpit, and

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the general clamour and uproar
in the capital over what the

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Bostonians had done in their
harbor, the empire was on the

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precipice of disaster.

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But even as the prime minister
and Parliament began writing the

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first of the Coercive Acts,
Britons wrote letters, drew up

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innovative imperial plans, and
negotiated in secret to save the

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empire.

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So, how did Britons seek a way
out of the imperial morasses?

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How did personal relationships
shape prospects for peace? And

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why did those efforts fail to
bring about their desired ends?

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To begin answering these
questions, we’ll first sail back

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and forth across the Atlantic,
to exchange letters between

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Britons struggling to find a
middle ground, we’ll then head

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into the halls of Parliament and
the Continental Congress, to

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rewrite the history of the
empire’s past in order to save

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its future, before returning to
12 Grafton Street in London, to

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play games of chess on which the
fate of the empire depended.

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In the early 1760s, an aspiring
lawyer from Pennsylvania named

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Joseph Reed ventured to London
to study the law. Reed was in

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his mid-twenties when he arrived
in the capital. Soon, he met

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seventeen-year-old Esther
DeBerdt, and they quickly fell

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in love. Esther was the daughter
of Dennys, a London merchant,

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who was then the agent for
Massachusetts Bay, Connecticut,

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and Delaware. The elder DeBerdt
did business with the Reed

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family firm, making it only
natural that the younger Reed

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would call on him to renew those
old Atlantic ties.

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Though impressed by the young
colonist’s ambition, DeBerdt was

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not thrilled with his
infatuation with Esther nor was

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he pleased that his daughter
equally admired Reed. To the

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dismay of both, DeBerdt denied
Reed’s proposal for Esther’s

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hand, though his objections had
more to do with Esther’s age and

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the state of the Reed family
finances than his own

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impressions of the law student.

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Nevertheless, Esther and Reed
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correspondence, one that spanned
the Atlantic after Reed sailed

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for New Jersey in the mid-1760s
to help shore up his father’s

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ailing firm. With more than
3,000 miles now separating Reed

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and Esther, DeBerdt’s estimation
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especially as he proved adept at
righting the family business and

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supplying him with information
on the state of the colonies

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during the Stamp Act crisis.

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DeBerdt relayed some of Reed’s
reflections to his own patron,

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William Legge, Earl of
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In the mid-1760s, Lord Dartmouth
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Trade, the government body
entrusted with the management of

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colonial affairs. From this
vantage point, Dartmouth read

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trade reports coming from the
colonies, new laws passed by

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colonial assemblies, and letters
from governors on the state of

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their provinces. They offered
him a portrait of the empire

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that few could ever see.

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Although a member of the
Anglican Church, Dartmouth had

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an intense interest in
evangelical Methodism. He became

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a supporter of the itinerant
preacher George Whitefield as

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well Eleazar Wheelock, who
founded a school in New

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Hampshire to educate Indigenous
people that would later bear

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Dartmouth’s name.

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Reed may have briefly met
Dartmouth when he lived in

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London, although the evidence is
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when DeBerdt passed on some of
Reed’s “sensible accounts of

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American Affairs” Dartmouth knew
of him.

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By the early 1770s, much had
changed for both men. Reed

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returned to London to finally
marry Esther, though the joy of

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their union was dampened by the
sudden passing of her father.

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After settling Dennys DeBerdt’s
affairs, Reed sailed home with

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his new wife and his
mother-in-law to begin a new

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life in New Jersey.

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In 1772, two years after
DeBerdt’s death, King George III

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appointed Dartmouth secretary of
state for the colonies.

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Dartmouth replaced Lord
Hillsborough, who was not well

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loved by British Americans.
Hillsborough had ordered troops

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to Boston in 1768 after
colonists rioted over the

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Townshend Acts, and commanded
provincial governors to suspend

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or dissolve their assemblies if
they made common cause with

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Massachusetts Bay. Even the king
thought Hillsborough a little

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too rigid.

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British Americans welcomed
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as much as they did
Hillsborough’s demise. Some

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British Americans saw his
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colonies.

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The West African-born Boston
poet Phillis Wheatley

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congratulated Dartmouth on his
new office, writing him in

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October 1772 that colonists were
not:

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Phillis Wheatley: “insensible of
the Friendship so much

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exemplified in your endeavours
in their behalf, during the late

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unhappy disturbances. I
sincerely wish your Lordship all

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Possible Success, in your
undertakings for the Interest of

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North America.”

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Jim Ambuske: The following year,
Wheatley met with Dartmouth in

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London when she visited the
capital. For Wheatley, who knew

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what it meant to be actually
enslaved, Dartmouth’s tenure

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heralded new possibilities for
the future. In a poem dedicated

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to him, Wheatley rhymed:

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Julie Flavell: Dartmouth, in a
way, an ambiguous character, he

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Phillis Wheatley: No more,
America, in mournful strain Of

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wrongs, and grievance
unredress’d complain, No longer

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shalt thou dread the iron chain,
Which wanton Tyranny with

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lawless hand Had made, and with
it meant t’ enslave the land

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definitely supported the
principle of parliamentary

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supremacy. Some of the moderate
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the principle of parliamentary
supremacy, but at the same time,

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they were simply realistic. They
didn't think that armed

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suppression of the colonies
would work. Some believed that

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eventually America would become
very wealthy and powerful and

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would gradually move away from
control by Britain, and that the

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ideal thing to do was to keep
avoiding conflicts, which, of

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course, had happened in the two
previous crises, and let it

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occur naturally and keep America
as an ally. And I think

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Dartmouth would belong in this
camp.

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Jim Ambuske: Joseph Reed’s
existing ties to Dartmouth and

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the belief that the secretary of
state would welcome informed

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observations from the provinces
convinced the common colonist to

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open lines of communication with
the noble lord. Reed had other

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good reasons for attempting to
influence the cabinet minister

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as well. Dartmouth was the
stepbrother of Lord North, the

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prime minister.

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Mary Beth Norton: Joseph Reed,
who becomes a leader of the

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revolution in Pennsylvania, but
is a moderate person. Was back

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channeling to Dartmouth who he
knew, Mary Beth Norton, I'm the

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Mary Donlon Alger Professor
Emeritus at Cornell University.

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He thought, if I can tell
Dartmouth the truth about what's

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happening, because Dartmouth was
thought to be an ally of the

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Americans, that he could
convince Dartmouth not to adopt

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major coercive measures.

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Jim Ambuske: Reed first wrote to
Dartmouth on December 22, 1773,

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three days before the ship Polly
arrived in the Delaware River

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with East India Company tea. The
now thirty-two-year-old Reed

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repeated long-tried arguments
that the Townshend Acts and the

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tea duties were:

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Joseph Reed: “generally
considered as a law imposing a

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tax without the consent of the
Americans, and therefore to be

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resisted.”

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Jim Ambuske: And he emphasized
to Dartmouth that much had

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changed in recent years since
the passage of the Stamp Act and

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its swift repeal. Discontent
over the tea and Parliament’s

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persistence in passing such
obnoxious and unconstitutional

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laws had reached dangerous
heights:

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Joseph Reed: “The opposition to
the Stamp Act was not so

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general, and I cannot but think
any attempt at present to crush

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it would be attended with
dreadful effects.”

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Jim Ambuske: But he counseled
Dartmouth not to believe talk of

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disloyalty in Pennsylvania:

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Joseph Reed: “Notwithstanding
any contrary representations, I

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cannot but be firmly persuaded
that the repeal of this whole

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act would ensure the future
submission of the inhabitants of

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this part of America, to any
other act of the British

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Parliament now in force.”

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Jim Ambuske: Reed wrote again
two days after the tea ship

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arrived in Philadelphia, warning
Dartmouth that:

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Joseph Reed: “how general and
unanimous the opinion is, that

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no article subject to a duty,
for the purpose of raising

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revenue, ought to be received in
America. Nor is it confined to

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this city; your Lordship will
see by the papers herewith, that

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the same opposition is made at
New York, Charleston and Boston,

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and you may rely upon it, the
same prevails throughout the

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country. Any further attempt to
enforce this act, I am humbly of

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opinion, must end in blood.”

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Jim Ambuske: Four months later,
in April 1774, Reed put pen to

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paper again, as British
Americans waited to learn of

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Parliament’s response to the tea
insurrections. Sensing that the

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British government would react
harshly, Reed counseled patience

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while offering Dartmouth
flattery:

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Joseph Reed: “I know of no Cloud
rising in our political

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Hemisphere, unless our Conduct
respecting the Tea should

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produce any. Of this your
lordship is the best judge. We

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hope & trust we have not
forfeited your Lordships Favour

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& Protection; this would be a
loss which I am sure every

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judicious American would
deplore, as I may say with great

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truth, that no minister ever
stood better in the affection

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and esteem of America than your
lordship.”

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Jim Ambuske: The cloud Reed
feared rose in response to the

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Coercive Acts. As he told
Dartmouth in June, that cloud

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had become:

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Joseph Reed: “a perfect and
complete union between the

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Colonies to oppose the
parliamentary claims of

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taxation, and relieve the
distress of the town of Boston.”

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Jim Ambuske: As concerning for a
moderate like Reed, who imagined

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that more pragmatic colonists in
Pennsylvania and New York could

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broker a resolution to the
crisis:

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Joseph Reed: “The severity of
the administration, and the mode

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of condemnation, gain [the
radicals] many advocates, even

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among those who acknowledge
their conduct criminal.”

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Jim Ambuske: And he noted with
some exaggeration that:

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Joseph Reed: “This union or
confederacy, which will probably

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be the greatest ever seen in
this country, will be cemented

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and fixed in a general congress
of deputies from every province,

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and I am inclined to think that
strong efforts will be made to

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perpetuate it by annual or
triennial meetings, a thing

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which is entirely new.”

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Mary Beth Norton: When I read
these letters, I said, Oh, my

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God. If Samuel Adams had known
someone was writing these things

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to England, he would have been
in deep, deep trouble, because

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he tried to explain what the
radicals were doing and why they

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were doing it. And I was just
astonished. It was almost like a

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spy in the midst of the
Americans

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Jim Ambuske: Reed knew from his
brother-in-law that Dartmouth

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had received his letters. That
he was not advised to

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discontinue his correspondence
meant that Dartmouth was happy

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to receive them. Dartmouth noted
this when he replied to Reed in

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July 1774 with his own
perspective on the crisis:

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Lord Dartmouth: “I will assure
you, I hope [for] better things.

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I know that the complexion of
some measures which have been

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taken of late in some of the
Colonies, has induced a

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persuasion in the minds of many
discreet and dispassionate

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people, that they have totally
forgotten the nature of that

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connexion by which they are held
to the Mother Country, and that

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they mean not to acknowledge a
dependence upon her in any sense

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whatever: for my own part, I
will not believe it till it is

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no longer to be denied.”

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Jim Ambuske: The secretary of
state appealed to moderates like

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Reed:

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Lord Dartmouth: “that a little
time will convince you and all

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that can think with coolness and
temper, that the liberties of

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America are not so much in
danger from any thing that

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Parliament has done, or is
likely to do here, as from the

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violence and misconduct itself.
I am persuaded I need not take

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pains to convince you of the
absurdity of the idea which as

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been held out to the common
people in inflammatory papers on

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your side of the water, that the
intention of Government is to

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enslave the people of America:
we wish you to enjoy all the

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freedom and all the rights which
belong to British subjects.”

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Jim Ambuske: Prominent
colonists like Benjamin Franklin

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weren’t helping matters either.
Aware that Reed and others were

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angered by reports of Franklin’s
treatment in the cockpit, and

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Dartmouth present for the verbal
assault, the secretary of state

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regretted the distress it caused
British Americans, but:

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Lord Dartmouth: “Whatever
respect I may have for that

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gentleman on other accounts, I
cannot applaud his conduct on

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the occasion of Mr. Hutchinson’s
letters.”

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Jim Ambuske: Dartmouth believed
that many British Americans had

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been deluded from their proper
duty to the king and all common

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sense by the ill designs of
radical men. In his view, the

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Coercive Acts were not
intolerable. Instead, they were

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proportional to the actions of a
New England province bordering

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on rebellion. Like almost every
Briton in the Mother Country,

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Dartmouth believed deeply in
Parliament’s supreme authority,

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the protection it provided for
the people’s liberties, and its

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right to legislate for the
empire:

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Lord Dartmouth: “The question
then is whether these laws are

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to be submitted to? If the
people of America say no, they

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say in effect that they will no
longer be a part of the British

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Empire; they change the whole
ground of the controversy,--they

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no longer contend that
Parliament has not a right to

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enact a particular
provision,--they say that it has

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not right to consider them as at
all within its jurisdiction.”

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Jim Ambuske: Lord Dartmouth’s
correspondence with Joseph Reed

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Burke claimed that British
Americans had hardly noticed and

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reflected hardening political
ideas about the fundamental

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nature of the empire.

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Dartmouth championed the rights
of an imperial Parliament to

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legislate for the colonies as it
saw fit, though he believed that

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the firm application of that
power ought to be tempered with

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prudence and wisdom. Reed shared
the view of many British

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Americans that colonists wished
to remain dependent on the

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Mother Country and the crown,
but that Parliament’s power was

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not absolute. Parliament could
regulate the empire’s trade, but

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readily complied with these
Navigation Acts, as the

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only the provincial assemblies
had the constitutional power to

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tax colonists.

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Each man labored to convince the
other of the righteousness of

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their respective positions. The
one that Parliament should

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relent, the other that the
colonies should submit. Yet,

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neither had given up hope by the
summer of 1774. They continued

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writing to each other.

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But their sentiments embodied
more than just debates about

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regulations were collectively
known, conveniently ignoring the

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political philosophy and
constitutional power, they were

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also deeply historical. By 1774,
Britons on both sides of the

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Atlantic had begun writing and
rewriting the history of the

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British Empire in North America
to explain the origins of the

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present crisis, and in some
cases, justify their resistance.

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Edmund Burke hoped that by
delivering a history lesson on

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the floor of the House of
Commons, he might help bring

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about the “better things” that
Dartmouth longed for.

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By 1774, the Dublin-born Burke
was a well known orator and

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00:27:38,418 --> 00:28:09,751
colonists’ penchant for
smuggling and evasion. But, with

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political philosopher, one who
celebrated the measured use of

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government power and
constitutional constraints on

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its excesses.

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Like Dartmouth, Burke had
witnessed Benjamin Franklin’s

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00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:56,150
trial in the cockpit. And like
Franklin, Burke was also a

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colonial agent. The New York
assembly hired him in 1770 to

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represent the colony's interests
to Parliament and in meetings

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00:28:03,815 --> 00:28:05,135
with the king’s ministers.

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In April, as Parliament debated
a number of new coercive acts to

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compel the colonists’ obedience
in the wake of the destruction

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00:28:10,311 --> 00:28:39,966
Britain’s victory in the Seven
Years’ War, successive

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of the tea in Boston, Burke and
a few other members believed

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that tempering the government’s
thirst for coercion with

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00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:28,685
measures of

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00:28:28,685 --> 00:28:32,765
support the repeal of the tea
duty – the last surviving tax of

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00:28:32,765 --> 00:28:36,125
the late Charles Townshend’s
revenue measures — as a sign of

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00:28:36,185 --> 00:28:39,785
Parliament’s good faith. Burke
and others hoped that the tea

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duty’s repeal would lessen the
sting of the Boston Port Act,

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00:28:40,525 --> 00:29:12,978
Parliaments and prime ministers
had ushered in a series of

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and weaken colonists’ stomach
for resistance.

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Like other Britons in the Mother
Country, Burke believed that

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Parliament was the supreme
legislature of the empire, and

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that it had the right to tax the
colonies. Yet, as he argued in

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the Commons, using the full
extent of those powers was

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unwise unless the empire faced a
dire threat.

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00:29:05,870 --> 00:29:09,770
In a long and extemporaneous
speech, Burke traced the history

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of the British
of the colonies through a system

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00:29:13,537 --> 00:29:48,228
dramatic and jarring breaks with
the past. As he argued in the

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of regulated trade since the
early seventeenth century. This

491
00:29:24,875 --> 00:29:28,895
commercial monopoly grew as the
empire did, benefitting Britons

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00:29:28,895 --> 00:29:33,395
on both sides of the Atlantic.

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00:29:33,635 --> 00:30:01,100
Edmund Burke: “This nation never
thought of departing from that

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House of Commons:

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choice until the period
immediately on the close of the

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last war. Then a scheme of
government new in many things

497
00:30:07,685 --> 00:30:11,465
seemed to have been adopted….At
that period the necessity was

498
00:30:11,465 --> 00:30:15,005
established of keeping up no
less than twenty new regiments,

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00:30:15,125 --> 00:30:19,085
with twenty colonels capable of
seats in this House. This scheme

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00:30:19,085 --> 00:30:22,385
was adopted with very general
applause from all sides, at the

501
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very time that, by your
conquests in America, your

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danger from foreign attempts in
that part of the world was much

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lessened, or indeed rather quite
over.”

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00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,360
Jim Ambuske: In Burke’s view,
the passage of the Stamp Act in

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00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:40,060
1765 had been an abrupt if not
radical departure from the past,

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00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:44,440
an unnecessary measure to pay
for an unnecessary army in North

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00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,700
America. Yet, the prospect of
taxing British Americans to fund

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00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:52,720
the costs of the military proved
alluring, even to those members

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00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,245
of Parliament who feared the
dangers of standing armies among

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Edmund Burke: “When this huge
encrease of military

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them.

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00:30:59,660 --> 00:31:03,080
establishment was resolved on, a
revenue was to be found to

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00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,560
support so great a burthen.
Country gentlemen, the great

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00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,560
patrons of occonomy, and the
great resisters of a standing

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00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,980
armed force, would not have
entered with much alacrity into

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00:31:12,980 --> 00:31:16,700
the vote for so large and so
expensive an army, if they had

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00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:20,360
been very sure, that they were
to continue to pay for it. But

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00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,065
hopes of another kind were held
out to them; and in particular,

519
00:31:24,125 --> 00:31:27,485
I well remember, that Mr.
Townshend, in a brilliant

520
00:31:27,485 --> 00:31:31,325
harangue on this subject, did
dazzle them, by playing before

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00:31:31,325 --> 00:31:34,025
their eyes the image of a
revenue to be raised in

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00:31:34,025 --> 00:31:34,745
America."

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00:31:35,465 --> 00:31:38,585
Jim Ambuske: For Burke, the
Stamp Act, the Townshend Acts,

524
00:31:38,585 --> 00:31:41,825
and more recent laws like the
Tea Act were all part of a

525
00:31:41,825 --> 00:31:46,490
chaotic, incoherent imperial
plan with no clear precedent in

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00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:50,690
the empire’s history. Worse, it
threatened the empire’s future.

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00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:54,290
Was it any wonder, then, that
British Americans resisted it?

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00:31:54,890 --> 00:31:58,010
Edmund Burke: “Could anything be
a subject of more just alarm to

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00:31:58,010 --> 00:32:02,030
America, than to see you go out
of the plain high road of

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00:32:02,030 --> 00:32:05,855
finance, and give up your most
certain revenues and your

531
00:32:05,855 --> 00:32:09,635
clearest interests, merely for
the sake of insulting your

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00:32:09,635 --> 00:32:14,555
Colonies? No man ever doubted
that the commodity of Tea could

533
00:32:14,555 --> 00:32:18,095
bear an imposition of
three-pence. But no commodity

534
00:32:18,095 --> 00:32:21,995
will bear three-pence, or will
bear a penny, when the general

535
00:32:21,995 --> 00:32:25,475
feelings of men are irritated,
and two millions of people are

536
00:32:25,475 --> 00:32:27,515
resolved not to pay.”

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00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:30,780
Jim Ambuske: In the immediate
wake of the tea’s destruction in

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00:32:30,780 --> 00:32:33,660
Boston, though, and with a
growing belief in Britain that

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00:32:33,660 --> 00:32:37,200
Massachusetts Bay was a province
bordering on rebellion and a

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00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,500
corrupting influence on the
other colonies, Parliament was

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00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:45,060
in no mood to hear Burke’s plea
or his history lesson. The

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00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:48,900
repeal of the tea duty failed,
and Parliament pressed on with

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00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:51,120
bringing Massachusetts Bay to
heel.

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00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,205
For all the blame that Edmund
Burke placed on the king’s

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00:32:56,205 --> 00:32:59,985
ministers for suddenly and
irresponsibly redirecting the

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00:32:59,985 --> 00:33:03,225
British Empire onto a different
path, his reading of this

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00:33:03,225 --> 00:33:07,005
history – and the empire’s
future prosperity – relied on

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00:33:07,005 --> 00:33:10,965
shared transatlantic past and a
common British identity.

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00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:15,100
Michael Hattem: These colonists
used British history to

550
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:20,020
reinforce their British identity
comes largely through the

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00:33:20,020 --> 00:33:25,300
history of England. And that's
because colonists in the 18th

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00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:29,080
century thought of themselves as
British, proudly British, and

553
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,100
they thought of the British
past, or history of Britain, as

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00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:38,065
their history. Michael Hattem,
I'm the Associate Director of

555
00:33:38,065 --> 00:33:41,425
the Yale New Haven Teachers
Institute. Most importantly,

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00:33:41,425 --> 00:33:44,605
they identified with the
Glorious Revolution of 1688,

557
00:33:44,605 --> 00:33:48,925
because it ended the tyranny and
absolutism of the Stuart

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00:33:48,925 --> 00:33:52,465
monarchs, because it increased
the power of Parliament at the

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00:33:52,465 --> 00:33:56,245
expense of the crown. And that's
a doctrine that we know as

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00:33:56,245 --> 00:33:59,590
parliamentary supremacy. And
that meant that Parliament now

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00:33:59,590 --> 00:34:02,350
had essentially total
legislative power, and that

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00:34:02,350 --> 00:34:06,430
there was no other body to
appeal to if anyone disagreed

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00:34:06,430 --> 00:34:08,950
with something that Parliament
did, because only Parliament

564
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:12,550
could repeal a law passed by a
previous parliament. British

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00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:15,070
subjects, including the
colonists, saw the Glorious

566
00:34:15,070 --> 00:34:19,090
Revolution as having laid the
foundation and the principles

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00:34:19,210 --> 00:34:23,095
that would allow Britain could
ultimately emerge later as one

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00:34:23,095 --> 00:34:25,615
of the most powerful empires in
the world.

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00:34:25,915 --> 00:34:28,375
Jim Ambuske: Britons in the
Mother Country including King

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00:34:28,375 --> 00:34:32,635
George III venerated the history
of the Glorious Revolution and

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00:34:32,635 --> 00:34:36,235
the triumph of Parliament over
the tyranny of absolutist kings.

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00:34:36,535 --> 00:34:40,735
The memory of Stuart monarchs
like Charles I and James II, and

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00:34:41,035 --> 00:34:44,200
the civil wars that ravaged the
British Isles in the seventeenth

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00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,280
century, burned brightly in the
British mind. Here’s Julie

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00:34:48,060 --> 00:34:51,960
Julie Flavell: If you're looking
for a British politician who is

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00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:48,760
Flavell:

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00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,660
at all mainstream, who didn't
believe in parliamentary

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00:34:54,660 --> 00:34:57,960
supremacy, you'd look in vain,
because in the 18th century,

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00:34:58,020 --> 00:35:01,080
members of parliament were still
faced with. The real possibility

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00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,080
that a crown that could get
revenue by means other than

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00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,080
parliament, for example, through
colonial contributions that went

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00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,780
directly to the crown or so
forth, could still become

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00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:10,620
tyrannical.

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00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,145
Jim Ambuske: And even if some
politicians like Edmund Burke

585
00:35:14,205 --> 00:35:17,445
argued against Parliament’s
swift departure from the past,

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00:35:17,565 --> 00:35:20,745
the demands of the present
required different choices.

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00:35:21,165 --> 00:35:23,325
Michael Hattem: After the Seven
Years' War, the British are

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00:35:23,325 --> 00:35:26,865
faced with this newly enlarged
empire that they have to find a

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00:35:26,865 --> 00:35:30,525
way to administer, and if it
takes some unprecedented

590
00:35:30,525 --> 00:35:35,265
legislation to administer this
unprecedentedly large empire,

591
00:35:35,565 --> 00:35:37,950
well then that makes sense to
them. They're not going to be

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00:35:37,950 --> 00:35:42,150
bound by precedents necessarily
from the past that don't fit

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00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:43,470
present circumstances.

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00:35:43,950 --> 00:35:45,990
Jim Ambuske: British Americans
celebrated the Glorious

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00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:49,050
Revolution, no less than their
fellow subjects across the

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00:35:49,050 --> 00:35:49,530
water.

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00:35:49,890 --> 00:35:52,470
Michael Hattem: But of course,
when the 1760s come and

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00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:56,010
Parliament starts passing all of
this unprecedented legislation,

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00:35:56,310 --> 00:36:01,335
it signals to them, in a sense,
that Parliament is no longer

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00:36:01,335 --> 00:36:06,675
bound by the authority of the
past or by precedent, and once

601
00:36:06,675 --> 00:36:09,735
they realized that, they also
realized, well, that means that

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00:36:09,795 --> 00:36:13,095
they can essentially do
anything. You can't possibly

603
00:36:13,095 --> 00:36:15,915
predict what they can do,
because they're not limited in

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00:36:15,915 --> 00:36:20,955
any way. And when they try to
appeal to Parliament against the

605
00:36:20,955 --> 00:36:24,060
Stamp Act, against the Townsend
acts, Parliament refuses to

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00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:27,000
receive their petitions because
they question Parliament's

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00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,540
authority, and parliament is
supreme. Colonists start to

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00:36:30,540 --> 00:36:34,080
realize that this glorious
revolution that they had

609
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,900
celebrated and had been the
center of their British identity

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00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:40,560
for three quarters of a century,
that the defining feature of the

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00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,140
Glorious Revolution was the
creation of parliamentary

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00:36:43,140 --> 00:36:47,025
supremacy, and in doing that, it
had effectively meant that

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00:36:47,145 --> 00:36:52,125
Parliament could act as
arbitrarily and as absolute as

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00:36:52,125 --> 00:36:55,965
any Stuart monarch in the 17th
century, because there was

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00:36:55,965 --> 00:36:59,445
nowhere to appeal to beyond
parliament. And once they

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00:36:59,445 --> 00:37:03,165
realize that, they start to
think very differently about

617
00:37:03,225 --> 00:37:05,985
what the Glorious Revolution
means and what it wrought,

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00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:10,170
especially for the colonies,
they're rethinking an event that

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00:37:10,170 --> 00:37:13,230
has been central to their
identity as British subjects,

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00:37:13,290 --> 00:37:15,990
and so that brings their British
identity into question.

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00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:19,440
Jim Ambuske: Questioning their
identity as British subjects led

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00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,800
some colonists to reconsider the
historical origins of the

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00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,160
colonies, and the English rights
their ancestors brought with

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00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,240
them to North America.

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00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:33,480
In the summer of 1774, as
Virginia’s delegates to the

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00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,960
Continental Congress, including
the planter and retired militia

627
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,185
colonel George Washington, made
arrangements to travel to

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00:37:40,185 --> 00:37:43,425
Philadelphia, a young planter
and lawyer named Thomas

629
00:37:43,425 --> 00:37:46,905
Jefferson wrote a lengthy
overview of Virginia and British

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00:37:46,905 --> 00:37:50,985
American history to guide the
delegation in their work. Though

631
00:37:50,985 --> 00:37:55,005
not a delegate himself,
Jefferson, like Washington was a

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00:37:55,005 --> 00:37:58,425
member of the House of
Burgesses, and both were deeply

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00:37:58,425 --> 00:38:00,165
invested in the empire.

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00:38:00,705 --> 00:38:04,410
Frank Cogliano: They are both
imperial Virginians. They are

635
00:38:04,410 --> 00:38:09,570
proud of Virginia. They are men
made by Virginia, but they're

636
00:38:09,570 --> 00:38:14,370
also cognizant of Virginia's
place in a wider British Empire,

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00:38:14,610 --> 00:38:19,410
which both of them are committed
to in different ways. Frank

638
00:38:19,410 --> 00:38:22,350
Cogliano, Professor of American
History at the University of

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00:38:22,350 --> 00:38:25,575
Edinburgh. They were born
members of that Virginia

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00:38:25,575 --> 00:38:28,815
planting elite. If they're not
at the very top of the society,

641
00:38:28,815 --> 00:38:31,875
they're not far off, and they'll
both get there by marrying very

642
00:38:31,875 --> 00:38:37,335
wealthy widows from that elite.
They represent the elite of

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00:38:37,335 --> 00:38:41,895
their society, and they're men
used to commanding wealth and

644
00:38:41,895 --> 00:38:44,895
authority, and they exercise
authority, and they have

645
00:38:44,895 --> 00:38:48,435
political and social and
economic power and capital. But

646
00:38:48,435 --> 00:38:51,360
they're also mindful that they
are part of something larger, or

647
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,760
Virginia is part of something
larger, which is this British

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00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,580
Empire. And at least early in
their lives, they're both

649
00:38:56,580 --> 00:39:00,420
committed to that Washington, of
course, sought and wished for a

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00:39:00,420 --> 00:39:05,280
career in the British Army, and
Jefferson, as a young planter,

651
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,880
cum lawyer, was committed to the
British imperial project as

652
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,240
well.

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00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:13,125
Jim Ambuske: In his advice to
Virginia’s delegation, Jefferson

654
00:39:13,125 --> 00:39:17,265
reimagined the British American
past to explain Virginia’s place

655
00:39:17,265 --> 00:39:21,705
in the empire and why Parliament
never had the right to legislate

656
00:39:21,705 --> 00:39:22,125
for it.

657
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:24,520
Frank Cogliano: If you read the
summary view of the rights of

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00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,280
British America, it's published
anonymously on his behalf in

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00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:32,380
1774 you get some insight into
that question. Jefferson wrote

660
00:39:32,380 --> 00:39:35,920
what became the summary view as
a series of instructions to

661
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,900
Virginia's delegation to the
Continental Congress. He wasn't

662
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:45,276
attending the Continental
Congress, but he wrote what

663
00:39:45,276 --> 00:39:45,808
became a lengthy pamphlet to
situate themselves in that

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00:39:45,808 --> 00:39:48,505
Imperial moment in 1774 and in
it, he outlines the grievances

665
00:39:48,505 --> 00:39:52,465
of the colonists, or
particularly Virginians. He also

666
00:39:52,525 --> 00:39:56,845
outlines the history of Virginia
and the history of the rights of

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00:39:57,025 --> 00:40:00,145
Virginians. And here I'm talking
about free white Virginians. Of

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00:40:00,145 --> 00:40:04,225
course, and in that he makes the
argument. He says, basically, we

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00:40:04,225 --> 00:40:09,070
are like the Saxons who in the
early Middle Ages migrated from

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00:40:09,070 --> 00:40:13,210
Europe to Britain and took with
them their rights and liberties.

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00:40:13,390 --> 00:40:18,250
We Virginians are Britons who
emigrated in the 17th century,

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00:40:18,490 --> 00:40:21,910
and we brought our rights and
liberties with us, just as our

673
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:26,890
Saxon forebears did, and we are
British people, really English

674
00:40:26,890 --> 00:40:30,070
people. We have the rights of
Englishmen that we have brought

675
00:40:30,070 --> 00:40:35,155
with us to North America and
that we are Britons who live in

676
00:40:35,155 --> 00:40:39,715
a different place, but we are
equal to and on a par with our

677
00:40:39,715 --> 00:40:43,675
fellow subjects back in the home
islands. He lays all this out in

678
00:40:43,675 --> 00:40:47,155
the summary view. And when he
writes the summary view, he's

679
00:40:47,155 --> 00:40:49,615
still trying to make the case
that we're the real British

680
00:40:49,615 --> 00:40:52,135
subjects. We understand British
liberties or the rights of

681
00:40:52,135 --> 00:40:54,565
Englishmen in a way that people
in Britain have lost. It's not a

682
00:40:54,565 --> 00:40:59,800
call for independence in 1774 he
lays out a theory of the case in

683
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,820
making a case, legal and
historical case for the

684
00:41:03,820 --> 00:41:07,900
Britishness of Virginians. So
he's not cling to that. He

685
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:08,440
believes it.

686
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,980
Jim Ambuske: In Jefferson’s
re-reading of history, Virginia

687
00:41:11,980 --> 00:41:15,220
and the other colonies had never
been subordinate to Parliament.

688
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,985
They were just as British as
their fellow subjects in Europe,

689
00:41:19,225 --> 00:41:22,765
united by a common king. And
while Parliament was the

690
00:41:22,765 --> 00:41:26,125
legislature in Great Britain,
the colonists were subject to

691
00:41:26,125 --> 00:41:29,845
the laws made by their own
assemblies. Parliament and the

692
00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:34,345
king’s ministers claimed powers
they never had, and worse, they

693
00:41:34,345 --> 00:41:37,465
were corrupting the king’s mind
against his British American

694
00:41:37,465 --> 00:41:42,790
subjects. Jefferson entreated
the king to intervene before it

695
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:43,690
was too late:

696
00:41:44,110 --> 00:41:46,690
Thomas Jefferson: “Open your
breast Sire, to liberal and

697
00:41:46,690 --> 00:41:51,010
expanded thought. Let not the
name of George the third be a

698
00:41:51,010 --> 00:41:52,330
blot in the page of history.”

699
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Jim Ambuske: In the fall of
1774, these competing histories,

700
00:41:58,660 --> 00:42:01,300
these conflicting British
identities, and these

701
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:04,780
contradictory claims about
Parliament’s power and authority

702
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,340
seemed irreconcilable.

703
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,520
When the Continental Congress
convened in Philadelphia in

704
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,880
September, radical, moderate,
and conservative delegates

705
00:42:12,940 --> 00:42:16,585
argued over the origins of their
rights. Did they come from the

706
00:42:16,585 --> 00:42:20,605
laws of nature or did they come
from political society? Did

707
00:42:20,605 --> 00:42:23,665
their ancestors carry with them
all the rights of English

708
00:42:23,665 --> 00:42:27,445
subjects across the ocean, or
were they more limited? Were

709
00:42:27,445 --> 00:42:30,745
they British subjects like their
brethren in Britain, or when

710
00:42:30,745 --> 00:42:34,225
their ancestors emigrated in the
early seventeenth century, did

711
00:42:34,225 --> 00:42:37,645
they create a separate British
people united under the crown?

712
00:42:37,645 --> 00:42:42,370
But how to secure their rights
and satisfy Parliament’s demands

713
00:42:42,430 --> 00:42:46,510
were more difficult questions.
One delegate believed he had the

714
00:42:46,510 --> 00:42:49,630
beginnings of an answer. Here’s
Mary Beth Norton:

715
00:42:49,630 --> 00:42:52,150
Mary Beth Norton: Joseph
Galloway, who became the leading

716
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:55,270
conservative at the First
Continental Congress, presented

717
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:57,610
what's known as the Galloway
Plan of Union.

718
00:42:58,090 --> 00:43:00,190
Jim Ambuske: Galloway was
speaker of the Pennsylvania

719
00:43:00,190 --> 00:43:04,615
Assembly and a dominant force in
local politics. Unlike his

720
00:43:04,615 --> 00:43:07,795
fellow Pennsylvania delegate,
John Dickinson, Galloway

721
00:43:07,795 --> 00:43:11,395
believed that Parliament could
tax the colonies, though their

722
00:43:11,395 --> 00:43:14,455
lack of representation in
Westminster was a serious

723
00:43:14,455 --> 00:43:15,055
problem.

724
00:43:15,655 --> 00:43:19,015
He was suspicious of the
seductive rhetoric of radical

725
00:43:19,015 --> 00:43:22,675
delegates like Patrick Henry,
who boasted in early September:

726
00:43:23,095 --> 00:43:27,220
“I am not a Virginian, but an
American” and that the colonies

727
00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:30,400
had returned to a state of
nature now that “Government is

728
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,660
at an end.” Galloway believed
the imperial crisis could

729
00:43:34,660 --> 00:43:38,140
finally come to an end if the
colonies united with Great

730
00:43:38,140 --> 00:43:42,580
Britain under a new constitution
that harmonized the past with

731
00:43:42,580 --> 00:43:43,120
the present.

732
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,680
In late September, Galloway
proposed the creation of a Grand

733
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,025
Council – a kind of American
Parliament – with members

734
00:43:51,025 --> 00:43:53,965
elected by each of the colonial
assemblies – and a

735
00:43:53,965 --> 00:43:57,805
crown-appointed President
General. Together, the President

736
00:43:57,805 --> 00:44:00,325
General and the Grand Council
would legislate for North

737
00:44:00,325 --> 00:44:03,805
America, providing the local
control that British Americans

738
00:44:03,805 --> 00:44:08,065
desired, yet they were to “be an
inferior and distinct branch of

739
00:44:08,065 --> 00:44:10,585
the British legislature,”
maintaining Parliament’s

740
00:44:10,825 --> 00:44:14,770
supremacy. Both legislatures
would have to assent to laws

741
00:44:14,770 --> 00:44:18,310
concerning British America
before they took effect, giving

742
00:44:18,310 --> 00:44:21,370
colonial representatives
significant say in imperial

743
00:44:21,370 --> 00:44:24,310
affairs, while preserving
Parliament’s authority.

744
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,460
Mary Beth Norton: It was still
something that the Brits would

745
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:30,180
never accept, because it
provided for a governor general

746
00:44:30,180 --> 00:44:34,560
over all the colonies and a
legislature elected by all the

747
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,360
colonies legislatures, and that
that body would have to agree to

748
00:44:39,420 --> 00:44:42,660
policies that Britain was
adopting about the colonies and

749
00:44:42,660 --> 00:44:44,160
the British would never agree to
that.

750
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:47,925
Jim Ambuske: The Continental
Congress nearly did. On

751
00:44:47,925 --> 00:44:52,905
September 29, Galloway’s Plan of
Union failed by one vote.

752
00:44:53,625 --> 00:44:57,225
By then, however, Congress had
already adopted the more

753
00:44:57,225 --> 00:45:00,765
aggressive Suffolk Resolves that
called for a boycott of British

754
00:45:00,765 --> 00:45:04,725
goods and regular militia
drills. It was preparing a

755
00:45:04,725 --> 00:45:08,025
Declaration of Rights and
Grievances, which endorsed the

756
00:45:08,025 --> 00:45:11,670
kind of British past that Thomas
Jefferson had imagined, and it

757
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:15,510
was drafting a petition to the
king. Galloway signed onto the

758
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:19,170
Continental Association, the
framework for enforcing trade

759
00:45:19,170 --> 00:45:22,290
restrictions, though he later
claimed he was coerced into

760
00:45:22,290 --> 00:45:26,970
doing so. When Congress closed
in late October, Galloway’s Plan

761
00:45:26,970 --> 00:45:31,350
of Union was dead and the
colonies seemed to be preparing

762
00:45:31,530 --> 00:45:32,130
for war.

763
00:45:32,130 --> 00:45:38,655
It would take weeks for ships
crossing the ocean to bring news

764
00:45:38,655 --> 00:45:43,035
of congress’s proceedings to
London. In the meantime, Lord

765
00:45:43,035 --> 00:45:46,635
Dartmouth was searching for a
way to broker a compromise and

766
00:45:46,635 --> 00:45:50,775
avoid a civil war. His
correspondence with Joseph Reed,

767
00:45:50,835 --> 00:45:53,955
provincial governors, and other
colonial officials gave him a

768
00:45:53,955 --> 00:45:57,915
perspective on the colonial mood
and mindset. As Julie Flavell

769
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,320
explains, Dartmouth and other
more moderate politicians:

770
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:04,660
Julie Flavell: Thought that
there could be a way of having

771
00:46:04,660 --> 00:46:07,480
some kind of contact with a
meeting like the Congress on a

772
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,440
temporary basis in order to have
some kind of discussion about

773
00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:14,740
measures that might mediate some
kind of solution without

774
00:46:14,740 --> 00:46:17,920
actually having to have a power
struggle. But the difficulty

775
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,460
was, colonial governments
weren't foreign governments, the

776
00:46:21,460 --> 00:46:24,280
British government wasn't going
to negotiate with them on equal

777
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:29,065
terms, and angry British
politicians were very sensitive

778
00:46:29,245 --> 00:46:32,725
to the idea of treating upstart
colony governments like they

779
00:46:32,725 --> 00:46:36,025
were equals. And an upstart
Congress in Philadelphia was

780
00:46:36,025 --> 00:46:39,805
even worse as far as they were
concerned. So some kind of

781
00:46:39,805 --> 00:46:43,585
arrangement was needed to defuse
the fighting and start looking

782
00:46:43,585 --> 00:46:47,005
for some kind of compromise that
didn't ruffle British feathers.

783
00:46:47,590 --> 00:46:50,050
Jim Ambuske: Dartmouth knew that
the government could have no

784
00:46:50,050 --> 00:46:53,890
formal contact with Congress, an
extra legal body with no

785
00:46:53,890 --> 00:46:58,030
constitutional authority. He
also knew that his stepbrother,

786
00:46:58,030 --> 00:47:01,510
the Prime Minister Lord North,
could not openly negotiate with

787
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:04,930
British Americans. To do so
would give the colonists the

788
00:47:04,930 --> 00:47:07,990
appearance of legitimacy,
weakening the idea of

789
00:47:08,050 --> 00:47:10,675
Parliament’s supremacy, and
eroding the prime minister’s

790
00:47:10,675 --> 00:47:12,715
standing in the House of
Commons.

791
00:47:13,135 --> 00:47:15,775
Dartmouth could not lead
negotiations himself for the

792
00:47:15,775 --> 00:47:19,915
same reasons. As secretary of
state for the colonies, he spoke

793
00:47:19,915 --> 00:47:23,875
for the government on colonial
affairs. Any talks would have to

794
00:47:23,875 --> 00:47:28,015
be held at arm's length, out of
public view, involving people

795
00:47:28,015 --> 00:47:31,315
who shared an affection for
British America and believed in

796
00:47:31,315 --> 00:47:33,955
the promise of a united British
Empire.

797
00:47:34,315 --> 00:47:37,660
Benjamin Franklin remained the
obvious choice to speak on

798
00:47:37,660 --> 00:47:40,840
behalf of colonists,
notwithstanding his humiliation

799
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,080
before the king’s privy council
in the cockpit at Whitehall

800
00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:48,520
nearly a year earlier. After
mulling over his return to

801
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,820
Pennsylvania, Franklin had
decided to stay in London,

802
00:47:51,940 --> 00:47:54,640
enjoying the pleasures of the
city, and occasionally

803
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,680
corresponding with government
officials.

804
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,845
Julie Flavell: He was the most
prestigious American in London

805
00:47:59,845 --> 00:48:02,545
in the decade before
independence, the best known in

806
00:48:02,545 --> 00:48:05,005
fact, some people have said he
was the most prestigious

807
00:48:05,005 --> 00:48:08,545
American ever to serve as any
sort of ambassador in Europe up

808
00:48:08,545 --> 00:48:12,025
to the present time, he had
international recognition in

809
00:48:12,025 --> 00:48:15,445
Europe as a scientist because of
his experiments in electricity.

810
00:48:15,865 --> 00:48:19,105
He was a fellow of the Royal
Society. He belonged to numerous

811
00:48:19,150 --> 00:48:23,470
clubs and societies. He came
closer than any other individual

812
00:48:23,530 --> 00:48:27,610
to being a spokesman for all the
American colonies. He'd been

813
00:48:27,610 --> 00:48:31,330
interviewed before the House of
Commons in February 1766, during

814
00:48:31,330 --> 00:48:35,050
the Stamp Act crisis, and at
that point, he put forward in

815
00:48:35,050 --> 00:48:39,490
very powerful terms the image of
the colonists as loyal Britons

816
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:42,070
who wanted the Stamp Act
repealed, but who would not

817
00:48:42,070 --> 00:48:45,715
quibble over constitutional
issues, and his views on the

818
00:48:45,715 --> 00:48:48,715
controversy between Britain and
America had been put forward in

819
00:48:48,715 --> 00:48:51,895
numerous pamphlets and
newspapers, so a lot of people

820
00:48:51,895 --> 00:48:55,735
had read his views by the time
of the Tea Party, he was colony

821
00:48:55,735 --> 00:48:58,915
agent for four colonies, which
was unusual, Pennsylvania, New

822
00:48:58,915 --> 00:49:02,275
Jersey, Massachusetts and
Georgia. And he's sometimes

823
00:49:02,275 --> 00:49:05,980
referred to by historians as an
ambassador for America, which he

824
00:49:05,980 --> 00:49:09,280
certainly was not, but he came
as close as anyone to filling

825
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:09,880
that role.

826
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,640
Jim Ambuske: But drawing
Franklin into negotiations

827
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,420
without the public noticing
would require a discreet circle

828
00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:19,600
of friends, and no small amount
of subterfuge.

829
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,680
Caroline Howe became the key to
all of it.

830
00:49:25,220 --> 00:49:27,740
Julie Flavell: Caroline was
quite a remarkable person

831
00:49:27,740 --> 00:49:30,680
throughout her life. She was
described as having a mind like

832
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,580
a man, which shows the mindset
of those days. She was clever.

833
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,900
She liked maths. She was self
educated. She understood Latin,

834
00:49:38,900 --> 00:49:42,580
French, Greek. She read widely.
She'd read anything, classics,

835
00:49:42,580 --> 00:49:46,300
novels, travel literature, but
she was also athletic for the

836
00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:49,360
day she lived in and in fact,
she was the only female member

837
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,020
listed for the beaver fox
hunting group that operated out

838
00:49:53,020 --> 00:49:56,620
of Rutland castle in the 18th
century. And I don't think this

839
00:49:56,620 --> 00:49:59,320
was because she loved blood
sports. I think it's because

840
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,060
riding. Was a physical activity
that was acceptable for ladies

841
00:50:03,060 --> 00:50:06,120
at that time. And she also loved
to gamble, and that brought her

842
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,760
into contact with some of the
leading figures of the day.

843
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,480
Jim Ambuske: The Howe family had
many ties to British America.

844
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:16,200
Caroline’s eldest brother, Lord
George Augustus Howe, had been

845
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,880
killed in 1758 at the Battle of
Fort Ticonderoga in northern New

846
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,180
York. Her younger brother,
Richard, served in the Royal

847
00:50:24,180 --> 00:50:27,600
Navy during the Seven Years’
War, commanding ships in battle

848
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,380
off the French coast. He
inherited George’s title after

849
00:50:31,380 --> 00:50:35,505
his death, becoming the 4th
Viscount Howe. Their younger

850
00:50:35,505 --> 00:50:38,865
brother William had fought with
Major General James Wolfe at the

851
00:50:38,865 --> 00:50:42,345
Battle of Quebec in September
1759.

852
00:50:42,825 --> 00:50:47,505
By 1774, Lord Richard Howe was
an admiral and William was a

853
00:50:47,505 --> 00:50:51,825
major general. Both were members
of Parliament. Neither wanted a

854
00:50:51,825 --> 00:50:55,005
civil war. And the memorial to
their fallen brother in

855
00:50:55,005 --> 00:50:58,590
Westminster Abbey reminded all
the Howe siblings of what their

856
00:50:58,590 --> 00:51:00,690
family had sacrificed for the
empire.

857
00:51:00,870 --> 00:51:04,590
Julie Flavell: But historians
have been unable to find any

858
00:51:04,590 --> 00:51:08,070
connection between Dartmouth and
the house, but that's because

859
00:51:08,070 --> 00:51:11,490
they've limited their search to
the men directly involved in the

860
00:51:11,490 --> 00:51:15,210
whole business, and widening the
lens to look at the how men in

861
00:51:15,210 --> 00:51:18,255
the context of their families
and their social circles, would

862
00:51:18,255 --> 00:51:22,695
have given the answer. 18th
century Britain was governed by

863
00:51:22,695 --> 00:51:27,075
a small set of titled wealthy
families whose women were very

864
00:51:27,075 --> 00:51:30,495
active in promoting all sorts of
family interests behind the

865
00:51:30,495 --> 00:51:34,455
scenes. And in a day when there
was no dedicated government

866
00:51:34,455 --> 00:51:37,215
buildings other than the Houses
of Parliament, a lot of

867
00:51:37,215 --> 00:51:40,755
political business was conducted
in private settings, at dinners,

868
00:51:40,815 --> 00:51:44,940
house parties, afternoon visits,
even over cards and gambling and

869
00:51:44,940 --> 00:51:47,580
women were present at these
events. And in fact, they often

870
00:51:47,580 --> 00:51:51,960
controlled the guest list, so
hostesses of large salons like

871
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,440
the famous Duchess of Devonshire
were important connections for

872
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,800
any man who wanted an enter
politics. And it was Caroline

873
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,860
Howe, who was the elder sister
to Admiral Howe, who actually

874
00:52:01,860 --> 00:52:03,780
knew the Dartmouth. She was the
connection.

875
00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:08,805
Jim Ambuske: Two pregnancies in
1774 gave birth to a secret plot

876
00:52:08,805 --> 00:52:10,485
with Caroline Howe at its heart.

877
00:52:10,485 --> 00:52:13,785
Julie Flavell: Her closest
friend, Lady Georgiana Spencer

878
00:52:13,845 --> 00:52:17,565
in the early 1770s started an
unusual charity called the

879
00:52:17,565 --> 00:52:21,525
ladies charitable society, and
this was the first charity ever

880
00:52:21,525 --> 00:52:25,905
to use means testing to assess
applicants for relief. And the

881
00:52:25,905 --> 00:52:29,190
reason for the means testing was
because wealthy ladies in London

882
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:33,390
were routinely sent begging
letters, and because they had no

883
00:52:33,390 --> 00:52:35,730
local knowledge anymore, they
weren't in their country

884
00:52:35,730 --> 00:52:39,210
setting, they were unable to
distinguish genuine charity

885
00:52:39,210 --> 00:52:44,310
cases from basically swindlers.
Lady Spencer's idea was to vet

886
00:52:44,310 --> 00:52:48,210
applications and send visitors
to assess each case. And the

887
00:52:48,210 --> 00:52:51,630
charity was also unusual because
it was organized almost entirely

888
00:52:51,675 --> 00:52:55,095
by women. A large number of
aristocratic women were

889
00:52:55,095 --> 00:52:58,215
involved, and Caroline Howe
undertook a lot of the

890
00:52:58,215 --> 00:53:02,055
administration, especially when
Lady Spencer was pregnant and

891
00:53:02,055 --> 00:53:07,275
unable to be involved in autumn
1774 when the crisis was

892
00:53:07,275 --> 00:53:09,555
escalating and the First
Continental Congress was

893
00:53:09,555 --> 00:53:13,155
meeting, Caroline was in charge
of the charity and society

894
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,440
business, took her to the home
of Lord and Lady Dartmouth. And

895
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,460
there, Lady Dartmouth had just
given birth to her ninth child,

896
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:24,000
a girl, the only girl that
Dartmouth ever had. So when she

897
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,360
was born, a courtier said Lord
Dartmouth's over the moon, he's

898
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,080
finally got a daughter. She was
born on October the fourth, When

899
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,260
Caroline called On November the
first, the baby was desperately

900
00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:38,325
ill with scarlet fever, and Lord
Dartmouth was in the family

901
00:53:38,325 --> 00:53:42,285
drawing room wringing his hands.
Now, poor Dartmouth had had a

902
00:53:42,285 --> 00:53:46,425
very bad day, because earlier in
that same day, he'd been in the

903
00:53:46,425 --> 00:53:49,305
government offices, and he'd
received word that the

904
00:53:49,305 --> 00:53:51,945
Continental Congress in
Philadelphia had endorsed the

905
00:53:51,945 --> 00:53:55,245
Suffolk Resolves. And of course,
the Suffolk Resolves threatened

906
00:53:55,245 --> 00:53:58,425
armed resistance if Britain
didn't repeal the Coercive Acts.

907
00:53:58,425 --> 00:54:01,530
So there was absolutely no room
for any kind of peaceful

908
00:54:01,530 --> 00:54:04,710
compromise. A visitor to
Dartmouth's office on that

909
00:54:04,710 --> 00:54:08,010
morning described him as
thunderstruck. Then he went home

910
00:54:08,010 --> 00:54:12,150
to the sickness in the house and
in his home on that afternoon,

911
00:54:12,450 --> 00:54:15,990
was Dr father Gill, who was
called in as a physician to the

912
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:19,770
baby Charlotte. And from this
chance meeting, this chance

913
00:54:19,770 --> 00:54:23,175
bringing together of Dartmouth
Fothergill and Caroline Howe.

914
00:54:23,415 --> 00:54:26,415
Can be dated the beginning of
Caroline's overtures to Ben

915
00:54:26,415 --> 00:54:29,595
Franklin that went in in the
secret talks with Admiral Howe.

916
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,300
Jim Ambuske: Dr. John
Fothergill, the Dartmouths’

917
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,180
doctor, had known the family for
years.

918
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,160
Julie Flavell: Dr. John
Fothergill was a Quaker

919
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,240
physician. He had a very
successful practice in London, a

920
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:44,660
lot of his clients were
aristocrats. He had a lot of

921
00:54:44,660 --> 00:54:48,320
contacts with the Philadelphia
Quaker Meeting too. He was an

922
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,740
active member of the meeting in
London. He was a fellow of the

923
00:54:51,740 --> 00:54:55,085
Royal Society. And he was a
longtime friend of Benjamin

924
00:54:55,085 --> 00:54:55,565
Franklin,

925
00:54:55,925 --> 00:54:58,445
Jim Ambuske: Like his friend,
the merchant and banker David

926
00:54:58,445 --> 00:55:01,685
Barclay, Fothergill was
sympathetic to British American

927
00:55:01,685 --> 00:55:04,745
complaints about taxation
without representation.

928
00:55:04,745 --> 00:55:10,085
We have no record of what Lord
Dartmouth, Dr. Fothergill, and

929
00:55:10,085 --> 00:55:13,625
Caroline Howe discussed in the
Dartmouth home on November 1st,

930
00:55:13,805 --> 00:55:16,445
but they soon set their plans in
motion.

931
00:55:16,730 --> 00:55:19,550
Julie Flavell: Because within
days, Caroline enlisted her

932
00:55:19,550 --> 00:55:22,250
friend Matthew Rapier, who was
also a fellow of the Royal

933
00:55:22,250 --> 00:55:26,210
Society and knew Franklin to
invite Dr. Franklin to play

934
00:55:26,210 --> 00:55:29,750
chess with her. And Franklin
recalled the invitation. There

935
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:33,530
was a certain lady Mr. Rapier
told him who had a desire of

936
00:55:33,530 --> 00:55:36,830
playing with me at chess,
fancying she could beat me

937
00:55:36,830 --> 00:55:40,415
Jim Ambuske: Matthew Rapier
advised Franklin to call on

938
00:55:40,415 --> 00:55:43,655
Caroline Howe at 12 Grafton
Street by himself.

939
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,900
Julie Flavell: And Franklin
found that a bit awkward, so he

940
00:55:46,900 --> 00:55:49,900
put it off. And while he was
putting it off, he was

941
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:53,440
approached by John Fothergill
and David Barclay, who asked him

942
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,220
to set out a list of terms the
colonists might accept to end

943
00:55:57,220 --> 00:56:00,760
the crisis. And they informed
him that they were acting on

944
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,760
behalf of Lord Dartmouth and
Lord Hyde, who was a member of

945
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,280
the Privy Council and was a
friend of the house, actually,

946
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,365
although Franklin wouldn't have
been aware of that.

947
00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:11,660
Jim Ambuske: Fothergill and
Barclay asked Franklin to keep

948
00:56:11,660 --> 00:56:13,460
their discussions a secret.

949
00:56:13,820 --> 00:56:19,400
By then, matters made secret
talks all the more urgent. At

950
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,660
around 1 o’clock in the morning
on November 18th, King George

951
00:56:24,020 --> 00:56:28,040
III wrote privately to Lord
North. After reviewing recent

952
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,100
dispatches from British
officials in the colonies, it

953
00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:33,785
had become clear to the king
that:

954
00:56:34,085 --> 00:56:35,705
King George III: “the New
England Governments are in a

955
00:56:35,705 --> 00:56:39,545
State of Rebellion, blows must
decide whether they are to be

956
00:56:39,545 --> 00:56:41,525
subject to the Country or
independant.”

957
00:56:41,525 --> 00:56:45,305
Jim Ambuske: When the king
opened Parliament on November

958
00:56:45,365 --> 00:56:49,565
30th, he delivered a determined
speech from the throne that left

959
00:56:49,565 --> 00:56:53,885
no doubt where he stood on “the
unlawful combinations” and the

960
00:56:53,885 --> 00:56:57,590
“most daring spirit of
resistance, and disobedience to

961
00:56:57,590 --> 00:57:00,230
the law.” He pledged his:

962
00:57:00,890 --> 00:57:03,470
King George III: “Firm and
stedfast resolutions to

963
00:57:03,470 --> 00:57:06,950
withstand every attempt to
weaken or impair the supreme

964
00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:10,970
authority of this legislature
over all the dominions of My

965
00:57:11,090 --> 00:57:11,270
crown.”

966
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,320
Julie Flavell: In early
December, raper approached

967
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,860
Franklin again and reminded him
of his promise to play chess

968
00:57:18,860 --> 00:57:22,460
with Caroline, and this time, he
took him personally to

969
00:57:22,460 --> 00:57:26,180
Caroline's front door. That was
on December 2. And over the next

970
00:57:26,180 --> 00:57:29,900
few weeks, the two played chess
regularly, frequently enough so

971
00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:32,960
the neighbors got used to seeing
Franklin going in and out of

972
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,065
Caroline's front door. He was an
easy to recognize figure with

973
00:57:36,065 --> 00:57:39,485
his shoulder length hair and his
glasses. And people watched who

974
00:57:39,485 --> 00:57:41,945
went in and out of people's
houses quite closely in that

975
00:57:41,945 --> 00:57:42,365
period.

976
00:57:42,365 --> 00:57:45,125
Jim Ambuske: Normalizing
Franklin’s presence at Howe’s

977
00:57:45,245 --> 00:57:48,545
townhome concealed the fact that
a game was afoot in her drawing

978
00:57:48,545 --> 00:57:51,785
room, one even Franklin did not
know he was playing.

979
00:57:51,785 --> 00:57:55,145
Julie Flavell: Caroline lived in
a recent development on Grafton

980
00:57:55,145 --> 00:57:58,385
Street that was designed by the
architect Robert Taylor. He

981
00:57:58,385 --> 00:58:01,850
designed houses for wealthy
people in the elegant Palladian

982
00:58:01,850 --> 00:58:05,690
style of the period, the houses
on Grafton Street didn't have

983
00:58:05,690 --> 00:58:10,370
much space to extend at the
back, so Taylor designed storied

984
00:58:10,370 --> 00:58:13,430
bow windows, which are very
common now, but were unusual at

985
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:16,550
the time. So Caroline, standing
in her drawing room, would have

986
00:58:16,550 --> 00:58:19,790
a view right down Albemarle
Street, which came up and met

987
00:58:19,790 --> 00:58:22,895
with Grafton Street. She was at
a T junction, and in either

988
00:58:22,895 --> 00:58:26,135
direction, she'd see Grafton
Street on her right and her

989
00:58:26,135 --> 00:58:29,315
left. Her brother, the admiral,
lived at number three, which was

990
00:58:29,315 --> 00:58:32,675
a larger building. All those
houses along that development

991
00:58:32,675 --> 00:58:36,635
had luxury features. They had
ornate plaster work, cornicing,

992
00:58:36,935 --> 00:58:40,655
decorative marble fireplaces and
all the public rooms, and her

993
00:58:40,655 --> 00:58:43,775
drawing room was on the first
floor. Her portrait shows a

994
00:58:43,775 --> 00:58:46,760
little bit of her drawing room.
There was an extensive bookshelf

995
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,960
in that room. In her portrait,
she's seated at a large wooden

996
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,460
writing desk with a fence border
design that creates a defined

997
00:58:55,460 --> 00:58:58,640
workspace for her, and she has
numerous little drawers with

998
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,880
locks on them for privacy, and
that's how people who dropped in

999
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,180
on Caroline often found her at
this very large desk, and behind

1000
00:59:05,180 --> 00:59:08,765
the desk in the portrait is a
card table that's folded out of

1001
00:59:08,765 --> 00:59:13,445
the way until wanted now, both
Franklin and Caroline loved

1002
00:59:13,445 --> 00:59:17,525
chess, and they were both very
competitive. According to his

1003
00:59:17,525 --> 00:59:20,645
opponents, he was known to
resort to tricks like drumming

1004
00:59:20,645 --> 00:59:23,345
his fingers on the table to
distract people because he

1005
00:59:23,345 --> 00:59:27,665
wanted to win. And Caroline also
loved to win, and she couldn't

1006
00:59:27,665 --> 00:59:30,950
help bragging in her letters to
Lady Spencer about her various

1007
00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:35,210
victories over different people
at chess. Unfortunately,

1008
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:39,290
Franklin, who wrote a very full
account of his meetings with the

1009
00:59:39,290 --> 00:59:42,650
house, didn't leave any record
of who won. Makes me wonder

1010
00:59:42,650 --> 00:59:43,550
whether Caroline won.

1011
00:59:43,550 --> 00:59:47,750
Jim Ambuske: Franklin found Howe
charming and a worthy opponent.

1012
00:59:48,350 --> 00:59:50,930
Howe played Franklin very
carefully.

1013
00:59:51,650 --> 00:59:54,455
Julie Flavell: Now, in these
meetings, they barely discussed

1014
00:59:54,455 --> 00:59:57,995
politics. There was one very
brief reference to the American

1015
00:59:57,995 --> 01:00:01,415
crisis in their second meeting,
which had a flirty, toned to it,

1016
01:00:01,655 --> 01:00:04,895
where Caroline told Franklin
that she thought he was the best

1017
01:00:04,895 --> 01:00:07,955
man qualified to settle the
American dispute, and she

1018
01:00:07,955 --> 01:00:10,955
followed up this flattery with,
I hope we are not to have a

1019
01:00:10,955 --> 01:00:14,735
civil war, to which Franklin
answered, we should kiss and be

1020
01:00:14,735 --> 01:00:18,380
friends. What can we do better?
Looking closely at her letter,

1021
01:00:18,380 --> 01:00:21,260
shortly after Franklin would
visit her, she would have lady

1022
01:00:21,260 --> 01:00:24,740
Dartmouth to her home on society
business, there was a cover,

1023
01:00:24,740 --> 01:00:28,460
basically. And these two women
were the go betweens, between

1024
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,260
members of government and
Franklin.

1025
01:00:30,980 --> 01:00:34,280
Jim Ambuske: Near the end of the
year, Caroline Howe cornered her

1026
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:39,100
Julie Flavell: On Christmas Day
1774 he came to Caroline for a

1027
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:34,880
opponent.

1028
01:00:39,100 --> 01:00:42,160
game, and she suddenly said,
Would you like to meet my

1029
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,700
brother, Lord Howe? She was sure
we should like each other, she

1030
01:00:45,700 --> 01:00:49,480
said. And Admiral Lord Howe
obviously had been waiting right

1031
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,880
in the next room. He came
quickly, and they were

1032
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,360
introduced, and then he got to
the point. He said he and other

1033
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,060
men in government circles were
alarmed at the situation in

1034
01:00:58,105 --> 01:01:01,945
America. They wanted to avert an
armed conflict, and they thought

1035
01:01:01,945 --> 01:01:05,785
Franklin was the best man to
reconcile the two sides. And

1036
01:01:05,785 --> 01:01:09,145
again, he was asked to draw up a
set of terms that would be

1037
01:01:09,145 --> 01:01:12,685
acceptable to the colonies. He
proposed meeting again in three

1038
01:01:12,685 --> 01:01:16,345
days at Caroline's house. And it
was at the second meeting that

1039
01:01:16,345 --> 01:01:19,945
he told Franklin that Lord
Dartmouth and Lord Norris, of

1040
01:01:19,945 --> 01:01:22,930
course, the Prime Minister were
the people he was working with,

1041
01:01:23,290 --> 01:01:26,410
and he also showed that he was
aware of Franklin's secret talks

1042
01:01:26,410 --> 01:01:28,750
with Fothergill and Barclay,
which Franklin said, as an

1043
01:01:28,750 --> 01:01:30,250
aside, so much for the secret

1044
01:01:30,790 --> 01:01:32,950
Jim Ambuske: With her brother
now engaged in talks with

1045
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:34,390
Franklin, Howe:

1046
01:01:34,510 --> 01:01:36,730
Julie Flavell: Offered to
withdraw from the meetings, but

1047
01:01:36,730 --> 01:01:39,670
Franklin requested her to say,
because he said he had every

1048
01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:43,690
confidence in her prudence, and
thereafter, she was always there

1049
01:01:43,690 --> 01:01:46,855
at every meeting that took place
over the next few months. And

1050
01:01:47,095 --> 01:01:50,395
she was also an intermediary in
one other very important way,

1051
01:01:50,395 --> 01:01:54,355
because this was a time when
handwriting was a fairly sure

1052
01:01:54,355 --> 01:01:58,555
way of detecting the author of
an anonymous document. The

1053
01:01:58,555 --> 01:02:02,035
British Post Office intercepted
letters regularly, and they got

1054
01:02:02,035 --> 01:02:05,935
to know handwritings of various
people. So Caroline transcribed

1055
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:10,300
all of Franklin's correspondence
in order to protect the secret

1056
01:02:10,300 --> 01:02:13,600
of his involvement, and also, if
she gave him a letter from Lord

1057
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,780
Howe, she'd then take it back
again so he didn't have letters

1058
01:02:16,780 --> 01:02:19,420
from Lord Howe saying anything
about this business.

1059
01:02:20,140 --> 01:02:22,720
Jim Ambuske: After a few
meetings, Franklin presented

1060
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,540
Lord Howe with several
suggestions for resolving the

1061
01:02:25,540 --> 01:02:26,080
crisis:

1062
01:02:26,140 --> 01:02:29,020
Julie Flavell: One of them was
that Britain should agree not to

1063
01:02:29,020 --> 01:02:32,080
intervene in the domestic
matters of the colonies, and

1064
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,620
could raise American revenue,
but only during wartime, and it

1065
01:02:35,620 --> 01:02:38,560
would have to be limited to a
percentage of what was raised

1066
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,980
from Britain itself. And of
course, with agreement of

1067
01:02:41,980 --> 01:02:45,205
Parliament, but he also agreed
with Lord Howe that sending a

1068
01:02:45,205 --> 01:02:49,165
commissioner to inquire into
grievances might be a good way

1069
01:02:49,165 --> 01:02:51,985
of stopping the slide to war,
which at this point was the key

1070
01:02:51,985 --> 01:02:55,585
thing. And it's important to
realize that this group of

1071
01:02:55,585 --> 01:02:59,065
people working in London behind
the scenes at this time didn't

1072
01:02:59,065 --> 01:03:02,485
necessarily think that some kind
of final solution to the

1073
01:03:02,485 --> 01:03:05,785
constitutional dispute would be
hammered out in that year. They

1074
01:03:05,785 --> 01:03:08,950
just wanted to end the crisis
without fighting, even if it

1075
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:12,070
ended inconclusively, because
that's how the last two crises

1076
01:03:12,070 --> 01:03:12,610
had ended.

1077
01:03:16,690 --> 01:03:19,990
Jim Ambuske: As the secret
negotiations continued, one of

1078
01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:24,190
Lord Howe’s allies William Pitt,
Earl of Chatham, presented a

1079
01:03:24,190 --> 01:03:29,155
conciliatory proposal to
Parliament in late January 1775.

1080
01:03:29,575 --> 01:03:33,175
Chatham, the prime architect of
Britain’s victory in the Seven

1081
01:03:33,235 --> 01:03:36,655
Years’ War, wanted to stop the
slide towards civil war.

1082
01:03:36,655 --> 01:03:39,775
Julie Flavell: He wanted to
allow talks with the Continental

1083
01:03:39,775 --> 01:03:43,255
Congress as a temporary body.
The British didn't want an

1084
01:03:43,255 --> 01:03:45,955
alternative Parliament on the
other side of the Atlantic, but

1085
01:03:45,955 --> 01:03:49,195
Chatham said, look, let's use
that as a vehicle for discussing

1086
01:03:49,255 --> 01:03:53,500
a solution. Chatham believed in
parliamentary sovereignty, but

1087
01:03:53,500 --> 01:03:57,940
he wanted parliament to concede
on the issue of taxation. So it

1088
01:03:57,940 --> 01:04:00,640
was to be a concession from a
sovereign British Parliament.

1089
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,180
The colonies would be assured
that they would not be taxed by

1090
01:04:04,180 --> 01:04:07,000
Parliament, that it wouldn't
interfere in their internal

1091
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,240
affairs, but that Parliament
would regulate the Empire,

1092
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:15,265
regulate trade, and possibly the
colonies might vote a permanent

1093
01:04:15,265 --> 01:04:17,125
revenue to the support of the
Empire.

1094
01:04:17,725 --> 01:04:20,785
Jim Ambuske: Parliament rejected
Chatham’s plan overwhelmingly.

1095
01:04:21,445 --> 01:04:25,285
Days later it declared that in
light of Massachusetts Bay’s

1096
01:04:25,405 --> 01:04:28,765
continued resistance to “the
authority of the supreme

1097
01:04:28,765 --> 01:04:33,205
legislature, that a rebellion at
this time actually exists within

1098
01:04:33,205 --> 01:04:33,865
the said province.”

1099
01:04:33,865 --> 01:04:38,185
Prime Minister Lord North, who
knew about the secret talks

1100
01:04:38,230 --> 01:04:42,310
between Franklin and Lord Howe,
and so forcefully championed the

1101
01:04:42,310 --> 01:04:46,510
Coercive Acts months earlier,
made one last effort to avoid a

1102
01:04:46,510 --> 01:04:46,690
war.

1103
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:49,450
Julie Flavell: Franklin thought
he detected the influence of

1104
01:04:49,450 --> 01:04:53,110
some of his ideas on North's
conciliatory proposal, which was

1105
01:04:53,110 --> 01:04:57,670
February 20. He proposed that if
a colony paid for its own civil

1106
01:04:57,670 --> 01:05:01,090
government and defense, parle.
Parliament would not tax it.

1107
01:05:01,495 --> 01:05:04,675
That would have to be subject to
parliamentary approval, which

1108
01:05:04,735 --> 01:05:08,035
Franklin didn't particularly
like, and any revenues raised

1109
01:05:08,035 --> 01:05:10,375
through the regulation of trade
would be returned to the

1110
01:05:10,375 --> 01:05:12,895
colonies. So Parliament would
still regulate trade, but it

1111
01:05:12,895 --> 01:05:16,495
would have no motive to over tax
the colonies. But North's

1112
01:05:16,495 --> 01:05:19,855
proposal, by now, fell far short
of colonial demands, and at the

1113
01:05:19,855 --> 01:05:23,268
same time, it gave up a lot more
than British members of

1114
01:05:23,268 --> 01:05:26,140
parliament were willing to
grant. And the fact is that at

1115
01:05:26,140 --> 01:05:29,260
this point, the mood in the
metropolis was that Britain had

1116
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compromised too often in the
past, that that had encouraged

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colonial unrest, and there was
no doubt in the minds of most

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men in Britain that any contest
of strength between Britain and

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her colonies would end in easy
victory over the colonies. So

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North's conciliatory proposal,
even as limited as it was, was

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greeted with cries that it was a
show of weakness, and proposing

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any sort of Peace Commission or
negotiation at this point was

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just not going to happen.

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Jim Ambuske: Lord North’s
proposal managed to pass in

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Parliament, but neither the
government’s supporters nor

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members sympathetic to the
colonies thought it would do

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much good.

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Nor would the plan proposed by
Joseph Reed have found much

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support either. After learning
of the King’s militant speech in

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Parliament, Reed wrote what
became his final letter to Lord

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Dartmouth. As a compromise, he
wrote, British Americans would

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pay for the destroyed tea in
exchange for the repeal of the

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Coercive Acts. Parliament need
not surrender its right to tax

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the colonies, only declare “the
Inexpediency of Taxation.” He

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warned Dartmouth that the
Continental Congress had more

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support than others had led him
to believe, and:

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Joseph Reed: “This Country will
be deluged with Blood before it

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will submit to any other
Taxation than by their own

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Assemblies.”

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Jim Ambuske: By early spring,
the Howe siblings knew that they

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might be among the families
spent to spill it. The

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government was sending William
Howe, Caroline and Richard’s

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younger brother, to the colonies
to take command of an army. The

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major general had quietly let
the government know he was

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willing to go if he could be of
some service. Lord Howe expected

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to be given a naval command in
the future.

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On March 7, 1775, Lord Howe,
Benjamin Franklin, and Caroline

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Howe met for one last time.

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Julie Flavell: I think there was
a little bit of a sad feeling to

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that they all met at number 12
Grafton Street. Lord Howe told

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Franklin that his intentions had
been good, that he regretted the

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01:07:41,005 --> 01:07:44,410
failure to establish a
commission, but he said things

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01:07:44,410 --> 01:07:48,670
might yet take a more favorable
term. And as he understood, ay,

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that is, Franklin was going soon
to America, if he should chance

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01:07:51,850 --> 01:07:55,210
to be sent thither on that
important business, he hoped he

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01:07:55,210 --> 01:07:59,470
might still expect my
assistance. And so ended the

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negotiation with Lord Howe and
Franklin left for America.

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Jim Ambuske: Fifteen years after
Caroline Howe welcomed her

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brother William home from a war
in North America, she bid him

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01:08:19,075 --> 01:08:25,135
goodbye once again. In all
likelihood, he was sailing into

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01:08:25,135 --> 01:08:29,500
another one. The British were
sending William Howe along with

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01:08:29,500 --> 01:08:33,220
Henry Clinton and John Burgoyne
with additional regiments to

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British America to reinforce
General Gage, who seemed to be

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rapidly losing control of the
situation.

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Some members of Parliament and
the British public remarked on

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01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,340
the almost cruel irony of
sending William Howe to Boston,

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01:08:49,060 --> 01:08:52,165
to subdue a province that had
raised a monument to Howe

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siblings’ late brother.

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01:08:53,545 --> 01:08:58,165
Major General William Howe
embarked for North America on

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April 15, 1775. He had barely
put to sea when what they had

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all feared had finally come:
war.

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Thanks for listening to Worlds
Turned Upside Down. Worlds is a

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production of R2 Studios, part
of the Roy Rosenzweig Center for

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01:09:20,900 --> 01:09:23,840
History and New Media at George
Mason University.

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I’m your host, Dr. Jim Ambuske.

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This episode of Worlds Turned
Upside Down is made possible

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with support from a 2024 grant
from the National Endowment for

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the Humanities.

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01:09:34,505 --> 01:09:38,345
Head to r2studios.org to find a
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episode and suggestions for
further reading. ​

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Worlds is researched and written
by me with additional research,

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writing, and script editing by
Jeanette Patrick.

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01:09:47,825 --> 01:09:50,885
Jeanette Patrick and I are the
Executive Producers. Grace

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01:09:50,885 --> 01:09:52,865
Mallon is our British
Correspondent.

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Our lead audio editor for this
episode is Curt Dahl of cd

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squared.

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01:09:58,490 --> 01:10:00,890
Annabelle Spencer is our
graduate assistant.

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01:10:01,610 --> 01:10:05,090
Our thanks to Julie Flavell,
Mary Beth Norton, Michael

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01:10:05,090 --> 01:10:08,450
Hattem, and Frank Cogliano for
sharing their expertise with us

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in this episode.

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Thanks also to our voice actors
Grace Mallon, Amber Pelham, Evan

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McCormick, Adam Smith, Craig
Gallagher, and John Terry.

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01:10:18,350 --> 01:10:22,955
Special thanks to Chad Wollerton
and Hannah Zimmerman at Thomas

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01:10:23,015 --> 01:10:24,095
Jefferson’s Monticello.

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